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Allo allo ^^ I had a thread on the old forum and since its been a while I guess it wouldn't hurt to have a new one on here. So I'm a junior in highschool and plan to apply for 2012. I have never had any formal classes or a private teacher or anything, and most likely will not until April, so please bare with me ^^;
The last time someone critiqued my work on the old forum, they said to work on looser lines and anatomy. So hopefully I made some development.
Many of my drawings are either photo ref, observation from school, or studies from the books I read. (such as Vilppu, Hogarth, Hampton) Apparently, highschool students don't have a large range of expressions and movement in public xD thats no fun.
http://jadoreetreuneartiste.blogspot.com/2011/02/improving-o.html
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The very first ones look a bit inexperienced, i think too animated not realistic enough but i love that torso piece and the 2nd to last one, also i see you don't draw hands or feet too much. I would draw very loosely at first with a light pencil then go over with a dark because i can see thick messy lines. I think you're on a good track i like the hands in the last one too -
Thank you so much for saying something! I've been going insane everday because I get views but no comments.x3
I completely agree with the un-realistic bit. Thats one of the reasons I wanted an opinion cause I thought they were coming out that way but I wasn't sure. I never thought to go over a loose sketch before...I feel dum xD I think because usually I use pen so the lines are dark to begin with but yeah. You're right.
Hands and feet. Definately. Gotta work on that. Game face on! >:D
Thanks again for commenting ^^ I think I noticed you're applying this year. Good Luck!
This post was edited by Deleted Member at February 17, 2011 5:44:01 PM PST -
You seem to have a nice handle on gesture, which is great because that really helps give life to your drawings.
Some of the poses seem to be constructed a little awkwardly though. Doing anatomy and proportion studies out of books can help with that, especially when you can learn how to simplify elaborate muscle and bone systems into basic shapes that will guide you in different drawings.
Just keep drawing all the time and you'll see improvement faster than you would believe! -
No problem! Just keep looking at accepted portfolios, I like that you are adding your own style to it though I can tell these aren't a fine arts students drawing and that they are leaning more on the animated side but I do this the face needs to be cleaned up a bit, using pen is good but I would start off with soft pencils or charcoal and experiment with colors! even markers crayons anything really
I have the list of accepted portfolios in the general look at ALL of them ha -
Meri: Thanks for commenting :D Yeah, I'm working on drawing the anatomy and proportions without a reference and that's probably why it comes out awkward a lot of the time.
And I have no objection to drawing my brains out xD
Ambar: Hands, feet, and faces are defiantly my greatest weaknesses right now. I'll probably be carrying all the accepted portfolios in my ipod everywhere now a days.
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Hey Guys and Gals! I just went to my second session of figure drawing yesterday and I just wanted an opinions on my road to improvement ^^
The session was about defining volume in the gesture.
2 min Warm up gestures
Yes, it was rather awkward/stiff in the first ones. I'm learnin'. 5 min for the volume drawings
The red is the instructor making corrections on my execution.
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I can see a lot of immediate improvement from the first gestures you posted to these ones. These are much better and have much more weight to them. Try holding your drawing utensil in different ways to use your arm more than your hand, it tends to help give better ideas for the line and freedom. Don't stop practicing and keep up the good work! I am sure you will be pleased with your results soon! -
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Let me just say, the model I had for yesterday's session had the most amazing moustache xD Classcial french villian style. Including the nicely groomed twirl at the edges.
The instructor kinda ditched us, so it was basically like an open drawing session. We ranged from 2-20 min throughout the three hours. It kinda sucked because there were many times when i wanted advice or had a question (and usually he explains so much I can't think of a single question) but it was also cool because we could work beyond 2 min gestures.
Here's my progress :D Feel free to thrash and bash.
http://jadoreetreuneartiste.blogspot.com/2011/06/summer-of-awesome-improvement.html
The longer the pose, the more difficult it became D:
I had another 20 min...buutt it came out really messy because I was thinking of shading too much
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Here is an update from figure drawing class ^^ The instructor was there this time so I was able to address my concerns on how to work/improve on the figure when we were drawing for a 10-20 min time span. (which he said was an eternity xD)
I feel that I took a wierd step back in this session because lately I've aquired a lot of methods/techniques to approaching a gesture sketch and a long pose and that caused me to think too much and eventually I didn't know how to approach it at all. I'm probably at a strange transition stage where I need to find whats comfortable for me and what I want to show in my drawings :3
I also kept thinking "There are no rules, just tools" xD Vilppu is glued to my brain.
http://jadoreetreuneartiste.blogspot.com/2011/06/summer-of-awesome-improvement.html
Well I'm done rambling. Once again, feel free to tear apart/crtique/mash/bash/comment on my progress ^^
This post was edited by Deleted Member at June 19, 2011 3:50:39 PM PDT -
Tangent alert! Check out the last drawing you posted, looking specifically at the legs. See how your contour and cross contour lines seem to meet in the same place? It's impossible to tell which thigh is in front and which is in back! You should takes special care to emphasize the line of the front mass over the back one and to never let unrelated lines meet like that, it destroys depth in your drawings. Keep up the good work! -
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I think you're moving in the right direction, but I would stress to be careful about putting stylized, "cartoony" (for a lack of a better word) faces/elements in with the observational drawing stuff. From what I've heard, they really don't like to see that. If you're going to do it, probably keep it in the supplementary section. Again, though, I've heard conflicting stuff from people about what they like to see. -
They look really cartoony still?! o.O Oh that's depressing xD haha, thank you so much for bringing that to my attention. Trust me, it was not intentional to come out that way. I've been trying to get out of that "cartoony" funk for a while.
I'll work harder :D I'm not really going to a spew a rant of what they want or don't want. I just hope they enjoy what I can show them when my skills develop to crazy awesomeness (well awesome compared to now xD)
I also think they don't like things too stylized because that's not skill, its just making something look nice with the limited ability you have. Well not all the time, but with youngin' kids such as me, it happens ^^; -
Oh geez! Its been two months already! o.O Thats scares me because I don't think I've improved as much as I would have liked yet. Only 6 more months gang, til the 2012 application. :o
So here are some of my recent stuff. Comment, critic, mash, bash, and any other synonyms that fit in.
http://jadoreetreuneartiste.blogspot.com/2011/06/summer-of-awesome-improvement.html
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In the 1st one I think the legs are too long, and the line work in all the look very stressed, kinda messy, they seem a little unfinished like you ran out of time to do shading all the way
I would focus more on the getting the proportions and letting the lines look more loose and free -
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Thank you. You're right. I need to go back to working on gestures and getting my line back.
(I really want to blame my crappy prismacolor charcoal pencil for the line quality, because even the people in my class are urging me to buy a better quality, but that would be ridiculous and I'll push past that :D)
That session we were actually focusing on the upper body but I should have tried to finish the rest as well. Thank you again for being blunt :D -
Hey guys! Wow, only 4 months left until the deadline o.O Its really getting into crunch time now.
So I know there are A LOT of problems with this drawing but I also want a second opinion cause my art teach' didn't say much. Its un-proportional for sure and the arm looks pretty mushy. Any other thoughts would be very VERY much appreciated.
I hope everyone is having a fantastic summer by the way. It went by very fast for me.
This post was edited by Deleted Member at September 5, 2011 11:02:57 AM PDT -
There are really not that many problems with the drawing, and it's really not that disproportionate, I think you're being a little too hard on yourself in that regard. I've learned that believability and a well executed drawing trumps proportion. The leg on the left side could be a little longer, and the arm could be a little beefier, but I really like the shapes of the shoulders and the hips on both sides. -
Thank you for your response! I guess I am my worst critic...Thanks! Those are areas I've been struggling on for a while. And I did have problems with the left leg because it was bent forward a little instead of straight down.
I'm also wondering if my line is better and if the drawing looks less cartoony. These were my problems before and I can't tell if I've improved on that. -
3 1/2 months til the deadline and less than a month until NPD @ Calarts. No need to panic, right?
This is my update from figure drawing class yesterday. My teacher said I was tightening up (NOOOOO!!) what do you guys think? Any comment or critique is still greatly appreciated! ^^
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I forgot about NPD, thanks for the reminder.
As for crits, try to be careful with your proportions and balance I guess. You first figure looks like he's about to fall over and I guess the second works, but he still looks unbalanced . And your heads and arms can look kinda small. But these are pretty good anyway, and thankfully we have a little time left to practice. The hand at the end looks really good!
Not sure what to tell you about tightening up, I guess you could practice making gesture drawings on lovecastle or some other gesture site..Maybe try using a medium you're not used to or use two different mediums in the same drawing.
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Haha, no problem!
Yeaahh, I'm not confident about making it this year because of the crazy competition and how much more I need to practice, but I'm proud that I improved. I'm so happy NPD exists so I see where I stand.
ANYWAY, thanks so much for critiquing. Balance has been a problem lately but I wasn't sure if it was all in my head or not.
I really really need to loosen up SOB
